Thursday, April 04, 2013

Colleges are good matchmakers. No way can MOOCs do that service ;)

A couple of months ago, I noted here:
When I was relatively new in my Oregon stint, one bright female student, "K," came to talk with me about her law school plans.  I asked her if she was free enough--without any significant other--to go wherever she wanted to.  Her reply was funny then, and is funny now, but is also a reflection of these gender issues.  "K" replied that she hadn't met anybody even her equal, let alone being better than her, and so it was all the more the reason for her to go far away from this part of the world.  I wonder whether she did find her soul-mate in graduate school.
Though on a lighter vein, it was a post on a serious issue that I have been blogging for a long time: how female students are doing wonderfully well, especially when compared with their male peers.  The world of higher education does not resemble in any way, and thankfully so, the bad old days when females were not provided with the opportunities that white males had.  How different are things now?
"A lot has happened since Betty Friedan wrote her book ["The Feminine Mystique"] in 1963," says Claudia Goldin, a Harvard economic historian. "It's amazing." More than 57% of the bachelor's degrees awarded in 2011 went to women,according to the Department of Education. So did 51% of doctorates, 48% of M.D.'s, 47% of law degrees and 45% of master's degrees in business.
It is a phenomenal achievement over a couple of generations.  It is yet another demonstration of what we humans can achieve if we put our minds to it.

This female advancement has also led to drastic changes in male-female relationships.  To quote Hanna Rosin:
Young women in their sexual prime—that is, their 20s and early 30s—are generally better off than young men. They are better educated and earn more money on average. What made this possible is the sexual revolution—the ability to have temporary, intimate relationships that don't derail a career. Or to put it more simply, to have sex without getting married.
This very issue that young women are beginning to be choosy about when to get married, if they want to get married, made an interesting topic of discussion in the online academic world thanks to a mother of two boys, both at Princeton, writing an open letter in the university paper advising the girls to marry!
At your core, you know that there are other things that you need that nobody is addressing. A lifelong friend is one of them. Finding the right man to marry is another.
She set it up well; after all, a Princeton alumna herself.  And then came the blunt advice:
Here’s what nobody is telling you: Find a husband on campus before you graduate.
Why?
Of course, once you graduate, you will meet men who are your intellectual equal — just not that many of them. And, you could choose to marry a man who has other things to recommend him besides a soaring intellect. But ultimately, it will frustrate you to be with a man who just isn’t as smart as you.
What she writes here is a restatement of what that student "K" remarked a few years ago, right?  "K" wanted to improve the odds of finding somebody smarter than her.  This Princeton mom takes that one step further--if not at Princeton, then odds will be against finding a comparable spouse.

To which, a Harvard economist, Edward Glaeser, writes about his own personal experience and suggests:
While I don't feel I can provide advice to young women, I am comfortable, based on both personal experience and the infallible majesty of economic theory, urging young male Princetonians to view your female classmates as prospective long-term friends and spouses (the qualifications for the two roles having much in common), rather than short-term amorous encounters.
I just wish that Glaeser hadn't used such a complicated academic way of writing that sentence ;)

Anyway, he adds this:
The role that colleges can play in forging lifelong friendships, and even marriages, also makes a deeper point. Princeton has nothing to fear from online learning. The face-to-face experience is just too important, not only as a tool for education but for creating the social relationships that are the real stuff of life.
No MOOC can offer this, and residential college-based higher education will be around for a while ;)

7 comments:

Ramesh said...

You got the completely wrong message from K. She wasn't saying that there weren't men her equal. Just that they were not there in Oregon :):):):)

Indu said...

Interesting insights coming from a man when a woman should marry!!! Having said that, i agree with those views but also think it is true for men. For an individual -man or woman the longer you wait to commit yourself to a long term relationship more likely you will end up never doing it. As we grow older we get pickier - that is true also about making new friends. May be it is more noticeable now, that many girls say no to marriage because their level of financial and emotional independence has become higher in the past decade or so and so they are more expressive of what they really want.... I'd add another reason why one could pick your long term partner sooner - Anyway, the perfect mate never happens or even if it does it is definitely going to be filled with phases of absolute dischord and whether you can live through the discord depends on so many factors you cant predict. Waiting only makes your choices fewer..
I also agree with Ramesh's comment here :-)

Indu said...

Interesting blog - a man telling the girl to marry early!!! Agree with most part of your blog and also Ramesh’s comment. However, i think it also applies for men.
Boy or girl, the longer you wait to commit to one relationship, more likely you will never end up doing it. As we get older, we get more picky about the people we want in our lives. You want one friend to connect with in a personal manner even if it only for ten mins in a month. May be it is just one coffee without a word spoken – after all this special space does not exist anywhere in the e-space!!! When you have relocated a few times, you feel the pang - you miss that friend –that space- that ‘conversation’ that was not verbal! I guess the same would be true also for a love relationship. Afterall, it has to be a very deep friendhip with a commitment to address practical issues together ; The physical, financial and emotional ones… Inherently, the psyche is not very different i think , male or female. However, the girl saying no to marriage has become more prominent now. In the last 2 decades the financial and emotional independence of the girl has grown tremendously. This has resulted in the girl feeling more confident of herself and clearly expressing what she wants, and the man thinks that should change – possible?

Sriram Khé said...

Oh yeah, that was exactly the point that "K" made, Ramesh--that she didn't have a good enough pool in this part of the world. Incidentally, she moved on to graduate school across the continent on the east coast ;)

Indu, yes, these are rapidly changing times. And the young and the old, the males and the females, are all facing challenges with adjusting and adapting to the changes. Like you point out, even moving to a new place is challenging because of the difficulty with making new friends. So, at one level, the Princeton mom was addressing a very practical issue. While she was addressing the Princeton females, the Harvard economist--a male--reinforced that by addressing the males.

Of course, all these discussions are in the context where the young find mates on their own, and doesn't apply much to the arranged marriage contexts, though even there we can imagine that educated women who delay their marriage could find it more difficult ....

Anyway, for years, I have been passing along a tongue-in-cheek advice to students. I tell them that in the backpacks they carry, they ought to include a toothpaste, toothbrush, and floss. And to use those after meals. "Spinach stuck between your teeth, or bad odor from your mouths will not attract the soulmate you are looking for" is what I tell them in jest :)

Ramesh said...

@sriram - you are willing to admit to that so easily .... :):)

Sriram Khé said...

Hey, what can I say ... I am an honest researcher who doesn't fudge the data ;)

Sriram Khé said...

I am not a big fan of the NY Times columnist Ross Douthat .... but, ... there is nothing that I can disagree with this column:

"The intermarriage of elite collegians is only one of these mechanisms — but it’s an enormously important one. The outraged reaction to her comments notwithstanding, Patton wasn’t telling Princetonians anything they didn’t already understand. Of course Ivy League schools double as dating services. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/07/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-secrets-of-princeton.html?_r=0