Wednesday, January 08, 2014

At what point do we stop thinking of college “as a path to prosperity”?

Those familiar with my posts here or my op-eds will know what my answer will be to the question in the subject line.  But, enough about me; let's bring in some real experts!

That question in the subject line of this post is a part of the interview with Glenn Reynolds, who replies:
REYNOLDS: As soon as possible. Some students do better by going to college. Others do worse. Four out of ten students, according to Gallup, wind up in jobs they could have gotten without a college degree. That makes the time, and money, spent in college a waste, at least as far as prosperity is concerned. And some students actually do worse by going to college, developing problems with drugs, alcohol, or sex that may plague them for years, or a lifetime. Then there’s the debt, which can run into six figures, and isn’t dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Of course, I agree with Reynolds.

Now, one could remark that the interview is in a publication that is clearly identified with the right side of the political spectrum and that, therefore, this is a biased and ideological position.  So, what does Camille Paglia, who is nowhere and everywhere on the political spectrum, think about this push for college?
" Michelle Obama's going on: 'Everybody must have college.' Why? Why? What is the reason why everyone has to go to college? Especially when college is so utterly meaningless right now, it has no core curriculum" and "people end up saddled with huge debts," says Ms. Paglia. What's driving the push toward universal college is "social snobbery on the part of a lot of upper-middle-class families who want the sticker in the window."
At a college like ours, where most students do not come from affluent backgrounds, the push for college is increasingly a financially disastrous outcome for many students who graduate with debt and no real jobs that will pay those promised middle-class wages.  We faculty and staff don't seem to worry about where our salaries come from!  Reynolds addresses that aspect too:
LOPEZ: You point out that you may be a potential loser in education reform — as a tenured professor “who is making out all right as it is.” You’re okay with that?
REYNOLDS: Yeah. The current professoriate has had a good ride, but in the past decade or two in particular, that ride has been mostly on the backs of increasingly indebted students and parents. That can’t go on forever, and shouldn’t.
Meanwhile, at the other end--at the graduate studies end of the continuum--the promise of the good ride of the professoriate means way more PhDs are being produced compared to the academic jobs, which means there is an army of unemployed and underemployed doctorates.  I have blogged enough about the ponzi scheme that graduate school has become.  So, again, enough about me. Here is Megan McArdle:
The fundamental issue in the academic job market is not that administrators are cheap and greedy, or that adjuncts lack a union. It’s that there are many more people who want to be research professors than there are jobs for them. And since all those people have invested the better part of a decade in earning their job qualifications, they will hang around on the edges of academia rather than trying to start over. Such a gigantic glut of labor is bound to push down wages and working conditions.
Unfortunately, I’m essentially arguing that professors ought to, out of the goodness of their heart, get rid of their graduate programs and go back to teaching introductory classes to distracted freshman. Maybe they should do this. But they’re not going to.
Happy new year!

4 comments:

Ramesh said...

You've commented before on this issue and sadly you are right - economically at least. I would, in sadness, articulate a point of view

It is very sad that a society makes it not sensible for somebody to go to college. The primary problem has been one of cost inflation. If that were tackled, I believe the position would change. Cost inflation can be tackled on a number of fronts

- You have commented tellingly before on the non academic waste of money
- A good corporate cost cutter (I know you disagree) will set right the cost problem - companies face this issue day in and day out
- Society must bear a portion of the cost of educating the young - this is the only investment (I wouldn't call it a subsidy) that is ethically, economically and rationally justifiable
- Ensure globalisation of learning ; let learning be delivered from, and through the optimal route, where it is cheapest to be delivered.
- Probably many more

Its a shame if the youth were not to go to college. Quite apart from employability, it gives a perspective on life, it enables you to think, it equips you to work in an ecosystem, it gives you a breadth of understanding which would be impossible to get if you were focused on a narrow job skilling program. Universities are one of the treasures of a society. Its very sad that it has come to where it has come to now; at least in the US. Thank God this is not the situation in the developing world.

Sriram Khé said...

Yes, we certainly want the youth to attend college for the reasons you list. But, over the years, the higher education industry has forgotten those reasons and has been vigorously selling college as the only path towards prosperity, which is how we have ended up with the mess that we are in. I blame a large part on the liberals' condescension towards the trades and the notion that people who don't go to college are somehow inferior. We are now paying a huge price for this.

The options you mention, including "many more" are non-starters at practically all the colleges and universities :( Disagreements we can, and will, have, only if we actually sat down to engage in such discussions, right? And when there are no serious deliberations, it then becomes all the more easy for the uber-minority dissenting voices to be ignored and marginalized.

At the end of it all, it is about the youth, who are being messed around with :(

Sriram Khé said...

Ramesh, you and I will have practically nothing to disagree with this WSJ op-ed, right?
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303933104579302951214561682?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Ramesh said...

Did you and I write that OpEd under pen names ? :)