Tuesday, January 30, 2018

The old man and the C

For years--all the way from my California days--I have been arguing in favor of vocational education in high school and against pushing young people into college.  I have written many op-eds about these issues.

I have also written quite a few op-eds, and blogged over and over, that "higher education" is not vocational education.  While college does involve preparing for the world of employment, it is a lot more than mere job-training.

I have failed, and failed miserably at that, to get anywhere with such ideas.

But, I continue along this path anyway because, well, stupid is as stupid does! ;)

Now that we are well into the term, students have started feeling the pain of college and classes like mine.  "It's all downhill from here till the end of the term," remarked a student in class yesterday, when I asked them about the lack of energy in the room.

It is not me.  Even the best of the teachers face the same issue.  In this interview, the libertarian-economist, Bryan Caplan, quotes  "Steven Pinker, the psychologist at Harvard, who regularly wins awards for his teaching" and says:
Yet he looks at his classroom a couple of weeks into the semester and sees that half the students aren’t there. How can it be that these are the best students in the world, with the best teacher, at arguably the best school in the world, and half the students don’t think it’s worth their while? And they’re getting a grade, so they actually have an extra reason to be there, and yet they’re not. The only thing you can say is that even the best teacher in the world is boring to these kids, compared to what else they could be doing. It’s sad and hard to face, but that’s the truth.
Even at Harvard, many of the brightest students find one of the brightest thinkers/teachers to be boring!  What are my prospects then, right?

Caplan has a new book out, in which he tears into higher education.  He says in the interview:
People who don’t like school rarely write essays about how terrible it was. Instead they just suffer in silence or complain to their friends, and then they go and get a practical job and we never hear their voices again. The whole conversation about education is really driven by people who did enjoy school and who work with students. Part of what I wanted to do is give a voice to the voiceless and say, "They may not talk about it, but they are suffering." It’s not a real mystery if you actually go to a classroom and look at the faces. Students are generally not happy. They’re bored.
Yep, which is also why I have blogged in plenty about how the current system of higher education is nothing but a ponzi scheme run by educators.

I firmly believe that we are rapidly approaching the point of a paradigm shift in the way we do college.  There are forces converging from many directions.  When that shift happens, I will lose my job.  And students will not be subject to my boring classes either. 

3 comments:

Ramesh said...

A recurring theme on which we have had differing perspectives.

Have a vocational stream and you'll still have the class bored. Guarantee a job for any program and you'll still have the student remarking that its all downhill from now.

I am more and more coming to the view that the old system of 20 years of education followed by 40 years of employment and maybe 10 years of retired life is inappropriate for today's society.

Education has to be periodic and coming in and out of work. I am of the view, that except for a microscopic few, a masters degree in philosophy is completely inappropriate at the age of 23. I also think that separating college and workplace to the extent we currently do is also inappropriate. And a familiar repetitive comment - education must be age appropriate.

A very job oriented (not just vocational) programme after school. Five years of work. Then a graduate program. Then 10 years of work. Then another graduate program for a completely different area which might take your fancy. Followed by 10 years more of work. and then another 10 years of part time work and part time study. Looks crazy, but that seems to me more appropriate.

Sriram Khé said...

Nope, we are largely in agreement. Maybe you prefer that I use your words and tone, that's all.

The vocational stream will be in high school. Studies repeatedly show the same thing: The otherwise bored students are way more engaged in the voc.ed. classes, and graduation rates increase.

There won't be anybody complaining about a 23-year old earning a philosophy degree because in my system nobody is forced to go to college and nobody will be forced to pursue any particular subject. If you think philosophy is inappropriate in this setup, then you won't pursue philosophy. In this setup of college, the rigor of critical thinking, writing, and all other skills will be easily transferable to the world of work too. Which is what I have always been advocating.

We are also in agreement that a new paradigm is on the horizon. In this paradigm, people won't do all the college work in one stretch and then be done. Nope. There will be avenues for lifelong formal learning.

The only place where we differ is this: you seem to think that education should be age appropriate. I flatly disagree with that notion. There is nothing called age-appropriate higher education!

Sriram Khé said...

Check out this madness:
http://www.kob.com/politics-news/new-mexico-legislature-politics-post-high-school-plan-bill/4766980/
It is FUBAR, as they say :(